@Steel: why is your child even going to the KH in the first place?
Are you going? Why? Is that the example you want to set for your child?
If you're not going, why is your child?
Anders Andersen
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Any stats on retention rates in mixed homes?
by Steel ini have a wife that i would say is a social witness.
i have never once had a meaningful discussion about the bible or even seen her read the damn thing.
she puts up a pretty facade of being a good witness but isn’t really a religious person.
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2019 service report is out
by slimboyfat inthe 2019 report is out:.
https://download-a.akamaihd.net/files/media_publication/29/syr19_e.pdf.
the “average publisher” figure for individual countries has made a comeback!
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Average increase is 1.3%
Given that world population growth was around 1.08% to 1.1% JW are barely keeping up.
With 8M people knocking doors and billions of hours wasted annoying people, they managed to grow a whopping ~1670 publishers more than simple (world wide average) population growth would have given them.
Fastest growing religion my ass. Population growth makes Islam and Catholicism each add more members every year than there are JW...
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'Jehovah's Witnesses' Label Added to Trolley
by cofty inyesterday i noticed on four trolleys i passed (and had a long useful conversation at one but more on that later) they had added a label identifying themselves as jehovah's witnesses.
it was just a simple printed piece of white card stuck on next the logo.. is this a new requirement?
was it a directive from hq or i wonder if the local council require it..
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Anders Andersen
I don't think it would be a decision of a local body of elders as the trolleys came from various congregations.
Depending on where the carts are, they are either governed by a single congregation, or by the central committee for public witnessing that governs the city centre and touristic hotspots.
The JW that watch the cart in my city come from quite a few congregations, including from out of town. Their efforts, permits, locations, etc. are coordinated by a central command for the whole city.
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Do you have a favorite picture?
by Iamallcool init can be beautiful landscape, etc... share it with us!
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'Jehovah's Witnesses' Label Added to Trolley
by cofty inyesterday i noticed on four trolleys i passed (and had a long useful conversation at one but more on that later) they had added a label identifying themselves as jehovah's witnesses.
it was just a simple printed piece of white card stuck on next the logo.. is this a new requirement?
was it a directive from hq or i wonder if the local council require it..
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Anders Andersen
Stan,
With the cultish propaganda on that cart and the depressed looking silent minders, I don't think anyone would need more deterrents....
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Spike in data use by smartphones
by mikeflood inlike since three months ago, my smartphone's data is reaching the 35 gb mark.
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never watch movies in it, and beforehand used to be like 5 or 7 gb, any thoughts?.
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Anders Andersen
Btw Chrome on Android can show you how much data each different website has used.
If you click on the 'hamburger menu' (the 3 dots top right) you may be able to see 'x Mb saved' as the last menu item. Click it to see the data usage per website.
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Spike in data use by smartphones
by mikeflood inlike since three months ago, my smartphone's data is reaching the 35 gb mark.
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never watch movies in it, and beforehand used to be like 5 or 7 gb, any thoughts?.
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Anders Andersen
Never watch movies in it
vs
You Tube 15 GB
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'Jehovah's Witnesses' Label Added to Trolley
by cofty inyesterday i noticed on four trolleys i passed (and had a long useful conversation at one but more on that later) they had added a label identifying themselves as jehovah's witnesses.
it was just a simple printed piece of white card stuck on next the logo.. is this a new requirement?
was it a directive from hq or i wonder if the local council require it..
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Anders Andersen
My bet is that it's a local council thing.
If it were a directive from JW HQ they would have provided some proper materials for the carts....to be paid for of course.....
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Ignorance is bliss.
by joey jojo ineveryone's heard this statement before but i only just read the full quote, or proverb, which is taken from a 1742 poem.
it seems fitting to share it.
'thought would destroy their paradise;.
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Anders Andersen
Wow, thanks for sharing!
I dug a bit more. The quoted part is from the 1742 poem "Ode on a Distant Prospect of Eton College" by Thomas Gray.
'Ignorance is bliss' comes from the last stanza:To each his suff'rings: all are men,
Condemn'd alike to groan,
The tender for another's pain;
Th' unfeeling for his own.
Yet ah! why should they know their fate?
Since sorrow never comes too late,
And happiness too swiftly flies.
Thought would destroy their paradise.
No more; where ignorance is bliss,
'Tis folly to be wiseA bit more info on the poem (and full text) can be found here: https://www.cummingsstudyguides.net/Guides8/Eton.html
It's interesting to note that the poet basically said 'those youths don't know what pains they will suffer later in life; that would destroy their current happy state of mind. Their ignorance of their future is bliss for them.'
Although the author apparently didn't mean 'ignorance is bliss' in the general sense, it quite similar for JW. Their current blissful state of mind can only exist because they don't realize yet their futures. They don't realize neither Armageddon nor Paradise will ever come. They'll grow old and die, like everyone they know.
Like the students at Eton College, their happiness depends on them not knowing their future (and a whole lot of facts too)...
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The Watchtower & Herald of Christs presence / The Watchtower Announcing Jehovah`s Kingdom- Why the change & when ?
by smiddy3 ini`m wondering just when and why the g.b.of jw`s made the change as they did to their official magazine.?.
at first they were advertising his presence long before they claim he actually arrived .. 1879 was the first wt wasn`t it ?
and their advertising his presence ,when according to their beliefs he din`t actually arrive with his presence until 1914.?.
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Anders Andersen
Now I got myself curious and wanted to see if Watchtower ever said anything about this. And behold, a quote:
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1101973021?q=1874&p=par#h=14From that understanding of matters, the “chaste virgin” class began going forth to meet the heavenly Bridegroom in the year 1874, as they believed him to have arrived in that year and to be from then on invisibly present. They felt that they were already living in the invisible presence of the Bridegroom. Due to this fact, when Charles T. Russell began publishing his own religious magazine in July of 1879, he published it under the title “Zion’s Watch Tower and Herald of Christ’s Presence.” He had already become familiar with Wilson’s The Emphatic Diaglott, which translated the Greek word pa·rou·siʹa as “presence,” not “coming,” in Matthew 24:3 and elsewhere. The new magazine was heralding Christ’s invisible presence as having begun in 1874. This presence was to continue until the end of the Gentile Times in 1914, when the Gentile nations would be destroyed and the remnant of the “chaste virgin” class would be glorified with their bridegroom in heaven by death and resurrection to life in the spirit. Thus the class pictured by the five wise virgins would enter through the door into the wedding.
